Worms Escaping
  • I order 1 pound of red wigglers and received them on Monday, October 25th. This is my first time trying my hand at vermicomposting. My worms are trying to leave my worm bin. My husband built me a bin out of wood that is like the commercially bought stacking tray systems. I just started, so the bottom tray is the only one I'm using. I do not cover the bin with anything. It was in my garage, but I live in Arizona and it was getting a little above 85 in my garage and so I moved them inside so it would be cooler. My bedding is a mixture of corragated cardboard, shredded paper towels, shredded paper, a handful of composted aged steer manure (almost 1 year old), a handful of sand, and some dead leaves. I prepared the bedding about 5 days or so before I got the worms. I made sure it was moist before adding the worms.

    The top bedding tends to dry out easily. I assumed that was because it was in the garage and it was a bit hot and no humidity. I spritz it with a spray bottle daily...not enough to make it sopping wet or anything, just enough to get the top layer moist. I fed the worms with lettuce, cucumber peels, cantaloupe rinds, and a bit of tomato tops. I chopped everything up into really tiny bits...not pureed, more like a chunky salsa but smaller. I added that to one corner of the bin and covered with the bedding on Tuesday.

    I did have a lamp on them from Monday at about 2:30pm until Tuesday night at 9:00pm. As soon as I turned the light off they started leaving the bin. I had about 5 that escaped. So I turned a light back on for the night. This morning when I checked on them, my husband had turned the light off about 45 minutes before. Again, I had about 5-6 escaping. Once I turned a light back on they went back into the bedding and stayed. As long as a light is on them they stay in the bin, but once I turn it off they escape. Will I have to always have a light on them? The lamp tends to warm up the room and I was worried it would be too hot for the womrs and that was the main reason I turned it off. I was afraid I'd cook 'em. ;) However, just a plain overhead room light doesn't seem to make them want to stay in the bin. If that is the only one on they tend to want to escape.

    How do I know if something is wrong with my bedding? It isn't ALL the worms that seem to want to get away...just a few. Although, I've noticed that when the light does go off a BUNCH come to the surface and hang out there. They don't necessarilly climb up the sides, but they are on the surface squirming around. Is that normal?

    I'm excited!! This is lots of fun. I know that most newbies kill off some worms, but I'd like to keep as many as possible. ;) Oh, another question. How often should I feed them?
  • i always expeiriment i see how much they eat in two days find that amount and feed them that over two days and skip a day between two days
  • Hi Shawn, I am in New Mexico. My worms are also in the garage. I am having trouble with to much moisture but I am getting it under control. This is my second time around with trying to grow worms and dirt to replace the sand in NM. I filled a corner with used coffee grinds, eggs, bread crumbs and old squash. About a cup. It is still there. So I am going to follow the advice from here and reduce it until I know the worms are doing the thier job. I recieved my worms about the same time you did. Keep writing. Maybe we can help each other. Lark
  • This is really a little of a puzzle. I have had a couple of other people with similar comments email me over the past few days. Maybe its the weather or something? I never use covers on my worms and only keep a dim light on them in wet weather. Humidity and low barometric pressure seem to be the biggest triggers for worms trying to crawl. I was thinking maybe you were at a high altitude, but looking at the address I shipped to you I think you are western AZ and not very high up.

    Normally they will stay put without a light after a few days. Try giving them a little more time. If you only have a few trying to escape then everything is ok with your bedding. Try spraying them only in the morning and hopefully the surface will dry before the light goes away. Worms don't crawl over dry surfaces often. I in fact always water the worms as early as possible because of this. For some reason lids tend to increase the tendency of worms to crawl around. I think it may be the increased humidity.

    Who knows, maybe you just have a few rebellious worms :)
  • I received my worms about a week ago and was having trouble with them wanting to escape and I was growing the beautiful white mold. I kept adding shredded paper and switching my two bins from top to bottom and now the worms seem happy and the mold is gone. So I think moisture and in my case condensation is a big factor to worm movement. Lark
  • They seem to be happy now!! No more escapees. ;) I lost about 20 worms total in the last week, but I'm sure they will soon be replaced with new baby worms. This is soooooo much fun!!
  • Awesome, i am glad that you got your worm escape problem under control and that you are enjoying "vermiculture."
  • i was wondering if you sell worms and what kind , my wife and bought some worms an i enjoy reading what you all are talking aboug timlinda3154
  • i was wondering if you sell worms and what kind , my wife and bought some worms an i enjoy reading what you all are talking aboug timlinda3154
  • Yep I sure do sell red wiggler worms for composting and euros red worms as well. Click below to go to the web store. Red Worms and more for sale
  • I was thinking about putting one of those stick up lights that are battery operated and stick to the inside of my worm bed to keep strays from escaping. What do you think
  • That might work well. It does not take much to keep them in. Maybe an led night light might work well and you would not need to change batteries that way. Either way it sounds like an idea if you are having an escape problem.
  • It is my worms first night in their new home. Due to this thread and others I have read I am well aware that escapes are likely. I decided to do a little test and go without a light, maybe I concocted the perfect bedding blend maybe I am a worm whisperer and did not know it. Well I checked them now the sun has set and had 10 worms that decided to head back to SC. None had made it out of bin and were returned safely to the bedding. My new experiment is to see if a dollar store 3 led button light is bright enough to keep worms down.
  • The three led button light worked great it keep worms in bedding all night. Next night only had one rogue worm couple hours after night dark. I turned on light again. Third night no worms trying to escape, still turned on light. Night four no light and no escapes! I will check them for a few more nights but I think the worst is over. Maybe see if weather changes will force me to use light again.
  • Hey, thanks for sharing that info with me and everyone else here. I am sure that this info is going to be of great value.

    It just goes to show you how sensitive the worms are to light. It doesn't take much to keep them down. Approaching storms seem to make them want to crawl. This is true even if they are kept indoors.
  • Why don't my worms want to be friends with me? They keep trying to leave and I just want to talk to them.
  • Haha, Hey Michael. Maybe if you would be nice to your worms.
  • hi I see you said something about  high alitude I live in Denver Co. at 5800' can you give me any advise on growing worms at high altitude. do I need to watch out for any thing different we have very low hummidity hear ?

    Alan

  • I just received my red wigglers today and they are in their new home now.  However, I was seeing maybe 25-30 worms trying to make a run for it out the top of the container.  I removed the lid and have them near a fluorescent floor lamp. Most have now headed back under the pieces of their recycled cardboard shipping box that I placed on top of the bedding. I had added the whole contents of the shipping (worms and peat?) to a thick layer of pre-moistened coconut fiber (expanded brick form).  I don't think I got the bedding too wet, but I did wet the cardboard box layer that I placed on top of the bedding.  I guess I made it too inviting to explore (dark and damp).  The lamp (a.k.a. ray gun) has them under control for the moment. I think I might have to seek out one of those stick on battery powered lights to mount on the underside of the container lid.  I really need to have the lid attached as I have cats and this plastic worm bin looks an awful lot like their litterbox. :)
  • Hey, eventually the worms should settle in, plus the worms will not travel outside of the lid usually and they will just crawl to it and stop. Maybe the cardboard on top of the bedding will keep the cats at bay in the interim.
  • Hello everyone, I have my worms outside and when I get new worms I put watermelon or strawberries in for the first week. They just love this. I also use the little lights so far so good.
    I have a big problem keeping my worms cool. I have to freeze tupperware with water and make blocks. I add two every morning (I do not take the blocks out of the Tupperware) then I turn on a small fan and run that all day. This keeps the temp under 90. If its a hot night I do the same at night.
    The one problem I have is Roaches in the 3 years I have had 4 and for me that is 4 to many. I put roach bait on the outside of the bin all on the walls and floor.
  • Hello Shawn,

    I just saw this post, but didn't read all the responses so sorry if your questions were answered already. Have you checked the temperature of the bedding? Sometimes if you feed too much food for the amount of worms, it will start to heat up the bedding. Take a compost thermometer and start there. The next thing I would check is the PH. Worms will escape if the conditions aren't right. If its too acidic, mix the bedding up with some egg shells. This will help neutralize the PH. Some people use dolomite lime. I've never needed that though. I use crushed egg shells and azomite rock dust. Next I would check the moisture content. I doubt this is the problem though because you are using a wood bin. Unless its too dry. I live in Phoenix. I'm not sure what part of AZ you live in, but I'd be glad to help more if needed.

    Hamilton Organics, LLC

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